Film Theory: The Joker Is Not Real (Joker 2019 Spoiler Free)

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  • Published: 08 September 2019
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    This year we are getting a seemingly brand new take on the classic Batman villain, the Joker. This version stars Joaquin Phoenix as a failed comedian named Arthur Fleck - a new name for the old character. People are saying it's a whole new origin story for the Joker and I think that's true... but maybe not in the way most people are thinking. I think this Joker is not actually REAL! What do I mean? You're about to find out!

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    Credits:
    Writer: Matthew Patrick and Zach Stewart
    Editors: Dan "Cybert" Seibert, BanditRants, and Alex "Sedge" Sedgwick
    Assistant Editor: AlyssaBeCrazy
    Sound Editor: Yosi Berman

    Sources:
    nme.com/news/film/joker-director-says-viewers-will-mad-new-film-strays-completely-comic-book-2525698
    nme.com/news/film/marc-maron-tells-us-working-joaquin-phoenixs-upcoming-joker-origin-movie-2466904
    schizophrenia.com/earlysigns.htm#
    sciencealert.com/schizophrenia-is-80-genetic-according-to-this-massive-study-on-twins
    sci-hub.tw/onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1556-4029.12858
    indiewire.com/2019/04/robert-de-niro-joker-king-of-comedy-1202055636/
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Comments • 9 445

  • Chicken Strip
    Chicken Strip  41 minutes back

    So who likes bat nipples?

    • MeMeBigBoiii
      MeMeBigBoiii  2 hours back

      Knew it was Schizophrenia before Matt it was even mentioned

      • awesomeXsauce
        awesomeXsauce  3 hours back

        bruh right when matpat said "as he says himself in the final trailer", i got an ad for the joker where he said the exact line that matpat then played after the ad

        • Peaceful Jim
          Peaceful Jim  3 hours back

          Shout out to the RuneScape wizard hat at 13:49.

          • ThePapermage
            ThePapermage  4 hours back

            If it turns out that the Joker is just some Walter Mitty-esque "dreamer" who doesn't even, you know, *do* anything but just imagines doing things, then I'll be severely disappointed. If they wanted to remake "King of Comedy" or "American Psycho", then they should have just done that. Hell, even Tyler Durden actually got stuff done.

            • Ruri Rotaru
              Ruri Rotaru  4 hours back

              at around 5:18 in the bathroom theres a weird glitch in the video only on the back wall of the tub.

              • Xinge Gao
                Xinge Gao  5 hours back

                Wow. Matpat. Did you just make this video hoping that us viewers were stupid? The most prominent characteristic of schizophrenia is that you have SPLIT PERSONALITIES. And judging by the fact that you used Wikipedia in defining schizophrenia, the first thing it should have said was that it was a mental disorder where you have two different personalities, which means you would have seen it and that you left it out on purpose. That means that the two different version of Arthur Fleck seen in the trailer could very well both be real, but from two different personalities.......

                • Xinge Gao
                  Xinge Gao  4 hours back

                  "And why would Matpat lie to us?" you may ask. Well that's because in mentioning that, it would mean contradicting his own theory about the movie being half hallucinations and half reality, because it could very well just mean that it is showing two different personalities. Also, not all schizophrenic people see hallucinations and are deluded, which further contradicts his own theory......

              • wandering futur
                wandering futur  5 hours back

                What if the imaginary part is when he has the makeup off? ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED

                • Nuclear Geek
                  Nuclear Geek  5 hours back

                  It all exists in his mind is kind of an overplayed theory/conspiracy. It really takes away from the films when people say that without it being clearly established.

                  • ApplexGang _420
                    ApplexGang _420  6 hours back

                    Joker calls a hit (or does it himself)on the wayne's creating batman...but in creating batman he furthers jokers delusions of heroism...i bet

                    • Daniel Avalos
                      Daniel Avalos  6 hours back

                      There no way you saw that movie Joker is coming october 4

                      • Anthony Ricci
                        Anthony Ricci  6 hours back

                        What is the movie at 2:22??

                        • Aaron man
                          Aaron man  6 hours back

                          Nobody fucking cares.

                          • Daniel Avalos
                            Daniel Avalos  6 hours back

                            Why do you spoil the movie your nothing

                            • qwerty
                              qwerty  6 hours back

                              Sorry, I had to...

                              2:19 *DUBS CHECK EM*

                              • Zak the PENGUIN
                                Zak the PENGUIN  6 hours back

                                personally i think that the new joker will be lame. Only because they keep changing his back story of how he became joker. Yes, he was a failed comedian, but he also fell into a vid of chemicals, which bleached his skin and turned his hair green. The makeup seems “clown” and less Joker. If you get what im saying. He never actually put on makeup except for lipstick. But thats my opinion.😐

                                • Game Show Channel
                                  Game Show Channel  7 hours back

                                  why do people hate so much THEORYS ?? keep doing those theorys mat we love your work :)

                                  • Sergio Barajas
                                    Sergio Barajas  7 hours back

                                    we live in a society

                                    • Ala Kala
                                      Ala Kala  7 hours back

                                      Maybe he’s the 3rd or 2nd joker

                                      • Aaron White
                                        Aaron White  7 hours back

                                        I can't wait until the film comes out just to prove you wrong..

                                        • Thexbox1gamerYT
                                          Thexbox1gamerYT  7 hours back

                                          I think this is gonna be the 2nd joker of the 3 joker theory

                                          • Inter lude
                                            Inter lude  7 hours back

                                            I don’t know Pat he seems like a normal guy to me.

                                            • Bruce Dunham
                                              Bruce Dunham  8 hours back

                                              Wasn't Arthur Fleck the guy in B:TAS who cut off Joker in his car and then was forced to go into hiding to avoid the Joker?

                                              • max frank labuschagne
                                                max frank labuschagne  8 hours back

                                                maybe the real joker is the friends we made along the way

                                                • AdamDaLEGEND
                                                  AdamDaLEGEND  8 hours back

                                                  Check out my OWN JOKER Trailer!




                                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Hyo8lESN8
                                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Hyo8lESN8
                                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Hyo8lESN8
                                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Hyo8lESN8
                                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Hyo8lESN8
                                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Hyo8lESN8

                                                  • AdamDaLEGEND
                                                    AdamDaLEGEND  8 hours back

                                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Hyo8lESN8

                                                    • Ooga Booga
                                                      Ooga Booga  8 hours back

                                                      I think that it's gonna be him telling Batman his "origin" and it's gonna end like Killing Joke (with Batman killing him or least it looks like he does from the shadows) I think that would be very interesting

                                                      • Eryazo Eri
                                                        Eryazo Eri  8 hours back

                                                        Just remember, not even the joker knows what his own origin story is

                                                        • Nico Bones
                                                          Nico Bones  8 hours back

                                                          MatPat, this is a great theory! But, let's take your theory to the next level.

                                                          It's been established in Batman comics, movies, and video games that the Joker doesn't actually KNOW his true past. In the Dark Knight he tells multiple versions of how he "got these scars." In the comics he talked about how he liked his past to be multiple choice. In the cartoons, he manipulated Harley Quinn by telling her a horrible life story, which was contrary to what he'd previously told Batman.

                                                          What if the movie is a story the Joker is telling to manipulate someone, and we're not sure how much he's lying about, how much he believes, and how much really happened.

                                                          Take it one step further, the woman who appears to be his mother is actually his wife. In multiple Joker backstories he mentions his wife and how it had something to do with her care that he went insane. So, imagine this, as a schizophrenic with delusions he comes to believe his aged wife (whom you commented looked particularly young and healthy) is actually his mother, because it feels better to him to have an aged, sick mother than an aged, sick wife. His attempted affair with the other woman leads to his "mother," who was really his wife to either try to kill him or kill herself.

                                                          Thus tying in with the fact that the Joker's stories often focus around his father killing his mother. Because he was the one who killed either his mother or his wife when he became like his father. It was easier to accept the idea that his father did it and he was the victim than live with what he'd done.

                                                          • Darren Frey
                                                            Darren Frey  8 hours back

                                                            You know, the more I think about it, even though the Joker was created by Society, I wouldn't be surprised at all if at the end or near the end he still falls in the chemicals. The character doesn't strike me as somebody that would purposely dye their hair green.

                                                            • Froy Oropeza
                                                              Froy Oropeza  9 hours back

                                                              Then why would the movie be called the joker


                                                              Bruh

                                                              • hellobubble
                                                                hellobubble  9 hours back

                                                                okay but like, I really kinda liked Suicide Squad Joker. While they did kinda remove the iconic elements of the character, it was a fresh look on a character we have all seen a thousand times. I wasn't looking for him to remain as the new look for every joker for the rest of joker's existence, but I really enjoyed him in that environment and would have loved to see that again.

                                                                • Da Stormcomin
                                                                  Da Stormcomin  9 hours back

                                                                  Great video!!!. I hope ur wrong cause that could suck. I already think the movie will be slow and dry.

                                                                  • stealistic gaming101
                                                                    stealistic gaming101  9 hours back

                                                                    15:00 mapat every time he does a fnaf theory

                                                                    • Crystal Jefferson
                                                                      Crystal Jefferson  9 hours back

                                                                      Literally got an ad for this movie lmao 😂.l

                                                                      • Toastiannn
                                                                        Toastiannn  10 hours back

                                                                        Hey thanks for spoiling Fight Club

                                                                        • dragonite 1352
                                                                          dragonite 1352  10 hours back

                                                                          I sall the joker ad in this video

                                                                          • Al
                                                                            Al  10 hours back

                                                                            3:46 he holds the pen with his right hand... but then next shot the pen is in his left hand? I bet the actor is right-handed and they made him write with a left hand to give that funny/creepy handwriting

                                                                            • John Duckworth
                                                                              John Duckworth  10 hours back

                                                                              So basically this entire movie could be one big joke told by the joker sitting with his psychiatrist in Arkham? I'm okay with that.

                                                                              • Unwanted Bookclub
                                                                                Unwanted Bookclub  10 hours back

                                                                                I had a feeling it was something similar to this. Love the idea behind it even though I haven't watched it. Pheonix probably killed that role. #walkthatline

                                                                                • Budgie McLeod
                                                                                  Budgie McLeod  10 hours back

                                                                                  Is anyone else feeling dumber for having watched this?

                                                                                  • Olivia Stoltenberg
                                                                                    Olivia Stoltenberg  11 hours back

                                                                                    I got a joker trailer before this

                                                                                    • Monster Freedom
                                                                                      Monster Freedom  11 hours back

                                                                                      dont diss shutter island matt i had to write a detailed essay on it last year

                                                                                      • nuggeth
                                                                                        nuggeth  11 hours back

                                                                                        6:07 voice crack

                                                                                        • Marianna Calamar
                                                                                          Marianna Calamar  11 hours back

                                                                                          Matpat: batnipples
                                                                                          Me: NAMTIDDIES



                                                                                          ARMYs shall get this

                                                                                          • blessed_withacurse
                                                                                            blessed_withacurse  11 hours back

                                                                                            I've been a fan of your channel and videos for so long... but you ruined it now . You said this is spoiler free but the last line with the review comment is a spoiler in my opinion ... thumbs down buddy thumbs down...

                                                                                          • Jo Jo
                                                                                            Jo Jo  11 hours back

                                                                                            I got a ad for the new joker! XD

                                                                                            • C Eastep
                                                                                              C Eastep  11 hours back

                                                                                              you haven't even seen the fuckin movie yet